Experts in the Media

Sue Barrett – This Working Life, ABC Radio National

Change Agent, Growth Strategist, Educator & Founder of the Selling Better Movement & Sell Like A Woman

Why good people do bad things.

“It just seems some of the lessons about ethical behaviour don’t appear to have really sunk in” – Peter Ryan,  ABC’s senior business correspondent, reflecting on the recent PwC scandal.

Often when we think about ethics in business and work we focus on the wrongdoer – the bad apple. But it’s also those surrounding them that are at fault. Those who are complicit.

Turns out we can all be complicit, sometimes without even realising. So how can we avoid it?


  • Dr Dale Tweedie – Senior Lecturer in the Department of Accounting and Corporate Governance, Macquarie University
  • Max Bazerman – Jesse Isidor Straus Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School
    Author, Complicit: How We Enable the Unethical and How to Stop
  • Sue Barrett – CEO, Barrett